wow, tend to make up facts based off of no information,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/gov-chris-christie-an-obama-critic-praises-the-president-amid-nj-storm-damage/2012/10/31/5cda4454-2397-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html

Elect PATRICK PRINCI, Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates...Princi, "the sensible choice!!

Independents will rule today - very unpredictable. Getting out and voting is the goal for today. There will be lines today so make sure you give yourself enough time and bring an id just in case.

Vote for your children's future, vote for your love of country, vote for your love of the constitution (freedeom)...."Let not your heart be troubled!"... VOTE ROMNEY/BROWN/BIELET/TISEI, etc......... Don't we already have enough convicted MA Democrats in jail!... Wake Up America!

will come down to the union voters vs the independents...should be interesting

Does anybody know if the Black Panthers are at the Foxboro Poll?
Would like to bring them some coffee and doughnuts.

End the dominance of the Democratic Party in Massachusetts vote:

Romney for President
Brown for Senate
Tierney for US Representative
Dembrowski for State Senate

Vote Yes on 1 - good for consumer, who knows what the deal passed actually is...
Vote No on 2 - suicide for depressed people.
Vote No on 3 - medicine that can be smoked? You've got to be kidding!

Yes on Question 1 - the deal that was cut will not go through until 2018 if this doesn't pass at the polls. Vote yes, pass it and it will go into effect sooner.

ROMNEY/RYAN/BROWN ...for the People who beleive in Indepence, Self Reliance, Limited Government & Fiscal Responsibility through good Business Planning with a Conscience for the People. As one of the World Leaders we need to lead by example and show a Commitment to Austerity. Printing money and implementing dependency programs without a side by side plan to support and encourage Free Enterprise is a country Out of Balance.. America is Far from Perfect but we are a Caring People that do better by nature when allowed the freedoms that our ancestors came here to experience. Idealogue Socialism makes people Dependent- Depressed and Unmotivated and eventually leads to poverty and revolution. Please don't vote for that option for our people.
President Obama has had his chance..and we saw in 4 Years his true Ideology and vision for America.
Yet it was Not what the majority of the people voted him in for. Nice guy but he's Got to Go!!!!
ROMNEY/RYAN & BROWN are my Clear Choice. God Bless America & our freedom to vote!! LET US ALL ENJOY THE GOOD WEATHER ,GO VOTE OUR CHOICE & LET US CELEBRATE THE RIGHT TO VOTE!

@Mike G... "There is no such thing as an 'Obama phone'."

But you knew what I meant.

Think of it as a hypothetical.

And vote for Romney/Ryan today, if you haven't already.

Romney for President
Brown for Senate

Vote Yes on 1 - although the compromise has already been figured out so this doesn't matter much except for implementation
Vote NO on 2
Vote NO on 3

Vot NO on CPA tax in Milton. Manage the pile of money you already get from us.

Vote for whoever you like, whatever you like on the prop questions, just tell me when the lines will be the shortest today.

@Mike G... "I make my decisions based on facts."

And the fact is...? Massachusetts will hand over its 11 electoral votes to whatever Democrat comes along. But wouldn't it be wonderful, just wonderful if we in Massachusetts really had a best-man-win type of choice.

Senate and HR, now that is a different kettle of fish.

Scott Brown is the best choice for the Senate, and for those in the 4th Congressional District, Sean Bielat is the best choice for the HR.

Not telling you who to vote for, you understand.

Mickey D, I have read your posts and I am in complete agreement with you. I intend voting a straight Democratic ticket today, and for the forseeable future, until the miscreants presently runnng the show for the republican party are long gone, whether by attrition, or by simply being voted out of office.

Mickey D - I understand your view on unions and you make sense on most of it - so why do the unions pour their monies to the democrats every election? Does that seem fair? SEIU super pacs etc...entitlements. So you cannot have it both ways - or maybe you can

I voted a split ticket today:

- Obama/Biden
- Scott Brown

We need to stop the vitriol and work together to truly accomplish anything. Stop voting along party lines and vote for individuals that have the capacity to compromise.

The "Great Uniter" has turned out to be one of the most divisive presidents on record; vilifying the other side, republicans, Businesses, anyone who makes more money than you do. Redistribution of Wealth and Class warfare right out of the Communist Manifesto. AND he's SELLING THE COUNTRY TO COMMUNIST CHINA!
Yes Mike, the unions did a lot to help all workers, but now they got laws passed that ONLY Union shops can bid on Public Projects, and are trying to pass legislation to allow union operatives to go into a business and STRONG-ARM workers into forming a union.
Now the unions are supporting Obama, and his socialist agenda. God help this country if he gets another term. We'll all be slaves to China if he does. THEN where will your good Union jobs be?

@Mickey D... "...WAKE UP!"

I'm awake !! Back in the day, in the history books, unions were a wonderful thing. They did all the things you mention and probably more. Today, they are a burden on non-union workers. Take a ride to Rhode Island or California. Take a look at failed cities. What got them there... unfunded liabilities. What's going to turn them around... bankruptcies. Earnings and benefits are out of balance.

Are corporations people? Yes, they are. If unions can support super PACs, why not corporations? Do you realize that all corporations pass their expenses on to consumers? Otherwise, they fail.

I'm not trying to demonize unions, but just trying to make the point that they are fast becoming unsustainable for non-union workers. The taxes are crushing us.

Vote YES on 3.

I'm not a user and it has taken a long time to come to this decision but if you look at it, it just makes sense. People are going to smoke marijuanna weather this bill is passed or not so lets not be naive. If the bill is passed, now pot can be regulated and controlled. The state can make some money from it and put it back into services instead of drug dealers pockets. Doctors will have to prescribe the drug and the stated will issue certified medical marijuanna cards to those that wish to register their names and information with the state. No more secrets. It's time to move forward and release the stigma. And please, do not give me the "gateway drug" argument. It's old and tired. I also understand it is not harmless when abused. That is a different argument. Oxys are much more dangerous and we regulate that too.

@Mike G. "...the fact is that hypothetical is not fact, and proselytizing with hypotheticals passed as fact is doing a disservice."

Point taken.

MUST read:
"Support for Kill List and NDAA make Obama and Romney Unfit for Office"

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/nov/2/support-kill-list-and-ndaa-make-obama-and-romney-u/

I am always astounded at the number of blue collar and other middle class voters who will throw their support to an elitist Republican candidate who does not give two cents for them and will preserve tax breaks and loopholes for the rich while jeopardizing your mortgage tax deduction, your Medicare if you are currently under 55 (take your voucher not pegged to inflation and shop for your health care among private insurers in your senior years), your unions, and your safety net. Go ahead, cast your vote for the rich and screw yourself, blockheads.

Jobs coming back? That's the Dem bookkeepers providing those numbers. If Obama is reelected you watch the job numbers than. The socialistic free give aways will be in full swing then and the numbers will be up to 11.5% jobless.

If Obama wins he's going to inherit a BIG MESS.

Alice, are you one of those blue collar and "other" middle class voters? If you are, are you saying you like watching your paycheck getting taxed to death to help Obama's freebies? you like seeing the jobless rate hover within 8% week after week? and you don't mind your health insurance increasing as your pay grows smaller? Then stick with your man Obama, If you want to see real change, then vote Romney. Obama's change is going in China's pockets. Last but not least,,,Just Vote. Preserve the right, or we may lose it someday.

Diana, sounds like maybe you don't get a paycheck.. I look closely at mine.Who do you think pays for the freebies? the money (trillions) is borrowed from China, and the payback comes from you and me. But you see what you want, and I see what i want. I see lot's of people out of work. and Trillions upon trillions in debt that we can never pay back. All for freebies, Enjoy your day.

Well Mick - Wall Street as a whole gave a ton more money to OBama than to McCain in 2008...also the foreign monies that came in for Obama and warreen were astounding this time. never mind the beautiful George Soros billions. Point is both sides are doing pretty well with funds

Diana, what are you on? Quite the opposite has occurred and it would be a lot worse if they hadn't kept the Bush tax cuts around! Obama has done absolutely NOTHING and he has this country on the brink of an implosion! Romney, on behalf of our Founding Fathers' principals, can put us back on the right path. We have never been a Socialist society and we're not going there now!

Diana your social Security went down during the Obama years, but if I remember correctly that was a REPUBLICAN proposal, though I didn't think it made sense at the time, with SS already in trouble.
However, I do the payroll for my small business and right after Obama took office the new tax tables INCREASED federal withholding for everyone. One more bit of misinformation spread by this administration

Go PATS

"Face it, you don't like the Obama's for a whole different reason than you're letting on"
@Owen - are you asking republican Woman about his skin color? if so black or white?

@Editors of The Patch - How are users able to filter OUT all these cross community conversations? Thank you. G'day.

Just remember folks. There has been none of the promised "Transparency" for the last four years. If you don't mind being lied to, please vote for the current administration. If you really want to make a difference, you'll use your vote to help eliminate the two party system (which is horribly broken) and vote for Gary Johnson. 5% is all it will take to get him in the debates in 2016. Then the country will not have to choose the "lesser of two evils" and we'll have a real choice.

To my flock,

Vote early, and vote often. And deliver us please from Obama. Let there be light.

Your spiritual advisor,
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

My question: What do you think Obama meant when he told us to vote, it's the best revenge? Revenge against whom? Why revenge? Screams divisiveness. I thought he was President of the United States. I guess he is only President to some.

Doesn't anyone care about the high school appeal?

Another day, another political thread heading toward 300 expressions of illiteracy and lack of critical thought. Bravo Patch, you have truly taken your AOL roots through their natural evolution.

By the end of the day, it will be all over (thankfully) Barry will be packing his bags... Uncle Joe will be MIA.

ALERT!
MUST read:
"Support for Kill List and NDAA make Obama and Romney Unfit for Office"

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/nov/2/support-kill-list-and-ndaa-make-obama-and-romney-u/

Amen to that Emcee.

New Black Panthers at polling stations in Ohio. Supposedly a group of retired Seals on their way to counter the voter intimidation....

ALERT! ALERT ALERT
MUST read:
"Support for Kill List and NDAA make Obama and Romney Unfit for Office"

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/nov/2/support-kill-list-and-ndaa-make-obama-and-romney-u/

Since they didn't require a voter ID, so far I've voted three times, and, if I have time before tonight, I'll try to vote a couple of more times . But, don't worry, since I am fair-minded fellow, each time I vote it's for a different candidate.

On September 11, 2001 we didn't angrily blame Democrats or Republicans for what happened, even though we could have. That day we were all Americans trying to help each other. For once, nationwide, I believe we collectively tried to be kind to each other. We were already in the tailspin of an economic disaster which only accelerated after 9/11. Perhaps that has been forgotten. From that day until today, many of us, including our leaders, have lost the ability to be respectful to each other and feel entitled to express anger with insults and sarcasm. For the sake of us all, I hope that gets put aside after today.

What has been clear from comments on this subject is that Democrates are concerned about Romney's position on issues of the day whereas the Republicans are busy throwing out their hatred of Obama, questioning his birth place, his religion, his patriotism and everything else except race that they can think of. Look at the deep South and their overwhelming white majorities for Romney. This must be an argument against race being an issue for we know that there has never been racism in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina.

to Quasimodo
You stated exactly what I did but in more detail about the SS/FICA rates.
Thanks for accusing me of embezzling from my employees; I REALLY appreciate that! Oh I forgot: I'm a dreaded "Business owner" and therefore automatically an enemy of the Middle Class. Well guess what Bucko: I AM THE MIDDLE CLASS!
The SS rates paid by the employees went down, but the Federal Income tax withholding rates went up on the tax tables PROVIDED BY MY ACCOUNTING SERVICES!

@OWEN C. ..Re. Repblican (she left out a letter)...FUNNY, but I got the same 'vibe' as you about her 'unsaid' reasons for spewing hatred of President Obama....'and his wife is even worse' ? what????????? So much unproductive and ugly hate spewing from the President Obama haters..it's sickening these people are active among us all..as neighbors, teachers, coworkers..festing.

FESTERING..I meant to write..but 'festing could be used too, by 'them'..;)

We currently have the most radical, racist, divisive President ever, occupying our White House. Time to cleanse the White House of this Marxist/Leninist.

Do you live in the South? What do you know. This election is not about race. Only those who are racists play that card. There are many non-blacks who love Obama and just as many non-whites who don't. Only people playing the race card are the politicians. The rest of us see through it. And, whats wrong with having access to College records, birth certificates, financial aid records, Thesis records, etc. The only
one of our Presidents to deny these records is Obama. Questions should be what's he hiding? Maybe, we should require every candidate for political office to fill out a JOB APPLICATION to be reviewed by the public voters who cast a vote for their candidate. Top seven are then vetted and a primary is held. Everything in the open instead of everyone wondering WHAT??? Race is not the issue, it's the economy.

Daved P- What!! The deep south has always voted Republican? Up to the civil rights act in the 60's, the deep south voted Democratic - Dixiecrats - this is where the Republicans get the talking point that Democrats voted against the civil rights act. True, they were conservative southern Dixiecrats like J. Helms. Many of the Dixiecrats joined the Republican party after the Johnson administration. Suggest you try living in the country in South Carolina, Georgia, etc., and tell me that there is no racism present today. So has the South always voted Republicans. Not since Lincoln, who was Republican and ended slavery. Is there an element of racism against Obama in this election - everyone with an open mind admits these is an element present in the Republican party.

Patch - By only reporting results for the two major parties, you're not telling the complete story of today's election. If you expect to be taken seriously as a news source, I suggest you include ALL parties in your analysis.

OllieD is correct. There is thinly disguised and NOT disguised ugly and ignorant remarks made on these posts that are clear to see..of some people's hatred of the fact that we have a black President...and hopefully we have him again. This is from an Irish girl, not that it matters...others are just disgusted by his politics yes..but not all..so always, always discouraging...

Ladies and gentlemen in the North End: Please keep your comments as polite as possible on our site
. We realize things can get heated in political discussions but let's be respectful. Thanks so much.

You people are making it a race issue, the same as your president does when he goes into a black community and , changes his accent and then veily spews racial overtones around this country. Tired about hearing that the whites have a racial problem when in fact the blacks spew it out whenever it is convenient.

It should not be ignored that Evangelical Christians would rather not vote at all, than vote for Romney or Obama. Romney is in a cult in their eyes. So this should make things interesting.

Had MSNBC on, The "Lean Forward" network. I feel VIOLATED. Have to shower now.

The only good Democrat is one that has been INDITED. Or one VOTED OUT…… Hey, those who long for Camelot, I spotted JFK and Jackie O’ at the poles.

They voted TWICE.

I voted in Norton around 10AM, There was nobody from the Brown campaign holding signs or waving. No signs even. There were at least 5 people out for Warren and tons of signs. Has anyone seen Scott Brown reps in Norton? How about the other towns? Might this reflect how well Scott is organized in this area??

I can't wait for all these regional articles and comments to stop showing up in the "what people are saying" feed. I want my local news back. :-(

The same comment is getting posted over and over again. That's spamming, folks—once is enough.

I'd like to say 2 things:

First, I'm glad to see Republicans posting an alternate point of view to what we hear from the opposite side.

Second, the general theme of posts from Dems and Repubs is what their side will do for you and do to the opposition - this screams for smaller govt with less power over its citizens.

@FindBalance - you're on your game today. Did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

One thing I'll never be able to resolve is the fact that Republicans and Tea Party members alike advocate for "small government", and their insistence on regulating things like reproductive rights, gay marriage and other items of intrinsic moral value that are inconsequential to running a nation.

Wow - Didn't Obama win 2008 with a record black vote and a record white vote supporting him??? Yet if he loses 2012 it is because of racism? Huh? Wouldn't be that folks just think his policies and performance are not what the country wants?

Mike G.
First of all not all republicans are tea party people. Now the question, as far as abortions, I believe that this is a moral and personal decision. I do not believe that there should be a restriction on person’s right, but why ask me to pay for it. Also, why should the government ask someone to violate their beliefs to perform an abortion? I know, I know, there is a war on woman. However, I am fairly certain that not all women share this belief. I have absolutely no problem with gay marriage, but again, many people are against it for their own reasons. The problem with the comment is that wanting smaller government has nothing to do with someone’s position on what many would argue are moral issues. And before someone runs off and asks for proof, I do not have any, but perhaps and I mean perhaps, there are some overlap with people who want smaller government and less intrusion in our lives and those who hold these views as well.

If a black person votes for Romney what is he/she considered?

Mitt Romney and most of Wall Street should be in prison. Check out stories by Matt Taibii of the Rolling Stone. See what Romney's role in the economic meltdown has been and how many of his friends got extremely rich and moved their untaxed billions to offshore accounts. Outsourcing jobs, tanking companies in trouble while stealing their loot and saddling them with enormous debt straight into bankruptcy court--that's all Mitt is good for and if he is elected, you can kiss whatever is left of your pensions, salaries, homes, etc., GOOD-BYE! He and his MBA cronies have cleaned out the taxpayers and they enjoy hiring undocumented workers for pennies, while promising to deport! The joke is on you if you believe he will help the working class. Obama was handed a huge mess from Bush, along with his administration who stuck around long enough to tank the global community into massive debt. Remember ENRON? 911? We don't need to look to far for the true terrorists--Wake up--Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for their valuable resources--Oil and the gas pipeline. That's what they do best--invade, destroy and colonize. Now the ultra wealthy are moving to other countries, claiming they don't want to pay taxes...LOL! What taxes? They actually think the other countries will welcome them. Think again. Maybe they will end up in a friendly S.American country with drug lords as neighbors....we could only hope!

And how many of the race baiters voted for Hillary over obama?

Its so typical of a white suburban town to be making racist comments. Did we all forget the very white GW Bush left a mess for Obama to clean up..After what the Bushes did there is no way it will take only 4 years to clean up..Lets face it, you all dont want to give Obama another 4 years to prove himself because you're all ignorant.

And again I say:

The general theme of posts from Dems and Repubs is what their side will do for you (positive) and what the opposition will do against you - this screams for smaller govt with less power over its citizens.

I voted a write in candidate for question 2, Todd Akin from Missouri, hopefully he wins and will us the favor and honor the result

He can't make things better because the Republican Party is supporting Wall Street/Banking/Corporated GREED! Once upon a time, the wealthy created jobs for American's--NO MORE. The internet has made it easy for them to retain their wealth, while they hold up their middle finger to the working class. Those who would vote for Romney fall into several categories--his investors, millionaires who do not wish to pay their fair share of taxes, saddling the taxpayers with trillions in debt, those hopelessly ignorant of the real issues facing us today (illegals, welfare mothers are not your grim reapers)--Corporate WELFARE LOOTERS ARE! Relationships international--foreign banks & American Treasury overseers---they should be jailed for violations, but keep an army of scumbag lawyers for everytime they are caught with their pants down! The media is owned by one man, run by corp's who will spread their cheap propaganda to the uninformed masses. Romney will not be kind to MA due to his history at the State House. Tieing his dog to the roof of his car, not allowing a hospice center in Belmont, citing, "our property values will go down". How humane--he will wage wars like you have never seen. 911 was an inside job--Bush & Cheney should have been held accountable for their countless crimes against humanity. Obama never stood a chance against the War Mongers and true POWERS THAT BE--remember what happened to JFK?

Maura Ciardiello for Governor's Council! Have you voted yet?

FINDBALANCE..the ugly and disgusting comments that are hate filled are blatant...YOU wouldn't see them...that's the big problem....you wouldn't....not a nice girl...

ps..those who want Romney, continued:

You have not experienced the following:

A layoff from your job, leaving you with debt which will take 10 years to pay off.
Your pension wiped out--ENRON making history again, under Bush's clock.
You lose your house from the scumbag criminal lenders--BOA, Citibank ETC! NOT JUST FANNY AND FREDDY.....most loans are at Deutche Bank!
Your young adult child can't find work and still has to pay that student loan that you are now paying for them.....

You are without healthcare--a loved one is sick with a fatal disease and you can't pay for their treatment.

I'm sure there are many more reasons to NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN. I vote for OBAMA/WARREN this morning and it sure felt good!

A jail cell is too good for those within the Romney/Bush/Cheney camp. It's time to CLEAN UP DC and WALLSTREET. Make them be accountable for their crimes!

Listen Joe!! I dont give a crap who you or anyone else votes for..I only care about who I vote for. Ive worked for this state when romeny was govenor and he was horrible then..he disseminated education.. When teachers teachers have to buy their own supplies to teach classes there's a problem..We all pay taxes in ma and teachers still have to pay out of their pockets. He cut off all funding for schools in ma and had the nerve to say he improved education. Really!!! Every single person running in this or any election are liars no matter what color or race they are.. I made that comment about the people who are truly ignorant racists who are making the comments, jokes etc about blacks..If you support and agree with their comments like it sounds like you are your just as ignorant as they are. This race is about ALL OF US not just one..You have no idea where i came from telling me to crawl out from under a rock. My family taught me values, taught me do not judege but the color of someones skin, what did your white parents teach you!! I have more class standing up to my fellow american regardless if hes a good president or not. Again this race is not about race and some are making it out to be. That is whats ticking me off. Stop with the racists comments

Listen Joe!! I dont give a crap who you or anyone else votes for..I only care about who I vote for. Ive worked for this state when romeny was govenor and he was horrible then..he disseminated education.. When teachers teachers have to buy their own supplies to teach classes there's a problem..We all pay taxes in ma and teachers still have to pay out of their pockets. He cut off all funding for schools in ma and had the nerve to say he improved education. Really!!! Every single person running in this or any election are liars no matter what color or race they are.. I made that comment about the people who are truly ignorant racists who are making the comments, jokes etc about blacks..If you support and agree with their comments like it sounds like you are your just as ignorant as they are. This race is about ALL OF US not just one..You have no idea where i came from telling me to crawl out from under a rock. My family taught me values, taught me do not judge buy the color of someones skin, what did your parents teach you!! I have more class standing up to my fellow american regardless if hes a good president or not. Again this race is not about race and some are making it out to be. That is whats ticking me off. Stop with the racists comments

Sommervill girl - please go back to class - OWS or wherever you keep your protest signs...

In this and in all elections I find it funny and no so much at the same time the fact that 1 side will lie/stretch the truth/exaggerate and then will scream and shout when the other side does the same thing. Both sides do it. The worst part no matter what side most are on, they believe their own lies while not believing the other sides truths because they are on one side. And it goes both ways. I wonder what an honest campaign would look like. My guess is that I will never know.

I am remember hearing that Obama had mentioned that if he couldnt fix the mess of the economy in his current 4 year term that he wouldnt go for another 4 years. The economy is still a mess and he is running for another 4 more years, this just isnt right Romney/Ryan/Brown/Tisei you got my vote!

...after reading all comments, I'm exhausted! Jeez such Hate!
my only recommendation: Vote YES on Prop 3
I mean, what will the neighbors think, if u are smoking
NON medically approved weed?:)

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I find it amazing that some rs are still defending bush. No matter what side your on if you don't yet realize what he did to our country, you are much more clouded than you realize. I'm not proud of obama, but anyone is an improvement from that money hungry killer. Just get out & vote, & pray for our children

To go off on a little bit of tangent to Question 3, medical marijuana - I was somewhat dismayed by some of the the police chief's comments in yesterdays's Item:

"One of Smith’s biggest concerns is that medical marijuana would be a “gateway” to other drugs." Really? It seems taking away the necessity of dealing with the "black market" would actually serve to close the "gateway", if one even exists.

“Marijuana is known to cause paranoia." What? Says who?

Come on Chief. Given your position, I can understand why you might be against this, but scare tactics like this? You're better than that. Tell you what - rather than lament what might happen down the road with this, how about you and the other Chiefs put some effort into making sure the OUI statutes are actually successfully enforced and adjudicated. As it stands now, you have to kill or maim someone to actually get convicted of drunk driving, and what you don't say is that some of the conditions marijuana has been shown to offer some relief for are now only addressed by the use of powerful narcotics. Do you want someone wiped out on pain killers driving around? That's what you have now.

If you are happy with the grid lock in Washington, then vote for Elizabeth Warren.
She will only vote the way her party tells her.
If you want someone willing to work with the other side, then vote for Scott Brown.
You may not agree with all of his votes, I didn't but he can/will work with the other party.

Let's see, I just got back from voting. I'm not afraid to say who I voted for:

President: Bozo
Senator: Maynard G. Krebs
State Reps & Senator: Curly, Larry & Moe
Congressman: Clarabell
These clowns certainly can't do any worse than those who are actually on the ballot. Yes, I did vote for these, under "write in".

Wow, someone show SomervilleGirl where the Kool-Aid is.....and a large cup.

Maura Ciardiello for Governor's Council, endorsed by The Lowell Sun, state police association and Governor's Councillor Mary-Ellen Manning.

How many of you Romney supporters have suffered a layoff, lost your healthcare, home, pension, are up to your eyeballs in debt with your adult children living at home?
I'm guessing NONE. Until it happens to you--Romney will be your worst nightmare. Do you think he gives a damn about you? Think again. Unless you are one of his friends living off the taxpayer cash cow, you are nobody. Koolaid? You are the one living in la-la land. Wake the hell up and take a good look at who you are voting for--he's not your savior. He is a bag boy for the corporate machine and a baby stealer...ask the former Mormon mom who was interviewed. Romney tried to force her to give up her infant for adoption. Does the Mormon Church have their own adoption agency? Hey, there's one way to cultivate more potential donors.What is there affiliation to employment law violator -Walmart? They have more lawsuits then they know what to do with--all by vulnerable part-timers with zero benefits and low wages. If that is the kind of America you want--you are NUTS!

Cruelty to animals, baby napper, crooked businessman......if there is a natural disaster, he'll be grandstanding somewhere in America begging for votes. His wife claims they were eating tuna in the basement for months....Some people never got out of their basements and are lucky to have tuna! How much are they worth now? Why won't he disclose his income? How much of it has been TAX EVASION????

Here you go---enjoy!

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/02/mitt-romney-201202

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/finally-liberated-from-facts-mitt-romney-the-pure-bull-artist-takes-flight-20121019

SomervilleGirl-Do you have a job?

Obama will win this election. It is unlikely a sitting president will be unseated. History dictates.....you are a bunch of sore losers....whaaaaaaaaa.......

Yes I have a job--is this any business of yours? Do you care about your neighbors who do not have jobs? NOT LIKELY....you only care about your own sorry, pathetic selves...that's what Republican's do best...it's the..."all about me", crowd.

They can't take it with them.....Isn't it time Mitt lay of the Grecian Formula? Old age is creppin' in fast.

Republicans are the best, get over it.

Somerville Girl. I am concerned about the general logic of your posts, but I did read the first Rolling Stone article a month or so ago. The article does a great job of explaining how Mitt and Bain were all out to make a buck and leave Bankrupt companies and towns in the dust. Unfortunately it takes them 1/2 the article to get to the point. Actions speak louder than campaign speeches.

Back to the first point. I think you need a little break from the political machine. Maybe take a course in meditation or something.

I love spicy chili.

George likes his chicken SPICY!!!!!!

Vote for Pedro!

Two hours left to vote for Maura Ciardiello for Governor's Council! http://andover.patch.com/announcements/councillor-mary-ellen-manning-endorses-maura-ciardiello-for-her-seat-on-the-council-says-ciardiello-has-what-it-takes-to-carry-forward-mannings-initiatives-independence-and-diligence-59e89ca0

Tim,

Where's the MONEY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj0JAfq4esk

"Government has coddled, accepted, and ignored white-collar crime for too long," he testified. "It is time the nation woke up and realized that it's not the armed robbers or drug dealers who cause the most economic harm, it's the white collar criminals living in the most expensive homes who have the most impressive resumes who harm us the most. They steal our pensions, bankrupt our companies, and destroy thousands of jobs, ruining countless lives."

His testimony included a reference to another $1 billion Ponzi fraud, which he shared the following day with SEC Inspector General H. David Kotz, who gave the tips to SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro. He also disclosed information regarding a dozen as-yet-unknown foreign Madoff feeder funds, “hiding in the weeds” in Europe, whose silent victims likely included Russian mobsters and Latin American drug cartels, “dirty money” investors. Markopolos remarked that European royal families had also lost assets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Markopolos

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/3/31/hmc-analyst-questions-dismissal-after-a/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVwr-Nf0slQ

http://www.counterpunch.org/2009/10/21/the-next-financial-crisis-hits-wall-street-as-judges-start-nixing-foreclosures/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Im9W4gwNc

I REST MY CASE......

Tim,

My personal story is one of success--but it came at a very high price. I was laid off in 2009 for 2 years, lost a home, saved another. I met hundreds of people who had gone through the same. We are stronger for it--but we are also extremely unhappy with those who have cheated, lied and stolen from hardworking Americans who deserve so much better. I provided testimony before the financial committee at the state house during this time and there were many who never got the chance, but were present for most of the hearing. There in the crowd were plenty of attorney's squirming in their seats, working for the other side. Three judges wrote a letter and wanted it read, but the committee would not allow it to be heard. It was based on the story provided by Pam Martens, a Wall Street whistleblower. The contents of the letter provided testimony by judges who learned that the criminal enterprise, aka mortgage lenders did not have the right to foreclose on homes. They lacked the note since they were entered through an electronic system called MERS, by robo-signers. So millions lost their homes due to fraud since the lenders could not prove it.

I had a family member who worked for a government "entity". He would tell my dad..."if the Americans only knew what they do overseas...all in the name of freedom...it would make them sick"....."wars are only to make money for corporations and benefactors". Until people get out from their caves, they do not understand REAL LIFE.

what a night for trolls

Tim,

AIG was holding congressional pensions-why they were too big to fail. They rigged the system to benefit the few. There is much more to be concerned w/ globally. Wall Street is to blame for the massive economic fall out.

Romney bargained with the devil for his fortune and glory. He is not a Christian man. Those of us who are true Christians have learned that money is not our God, but it is his sacred cow. The only true gifts of life are free--our families, our friends and our liberties. The rest is BS.

When you talk with ordinary people who are still struggling, you understand what is really going on. The jobs lost will not be replaced. If we buy into Romney's dream, our next generation will all be working at Burger King, Walmart, Staples and Sports Authority. How successful will they be working part-time jobs at $8 an hour with no benefits. How many will be able to get married, buy a home, raise a family? They condemn all welfare recipients who need to supplement their incomes with govt. assistance with the exception of the American Auto Industry who paid $20k to fly into DC on corporate jets because their parasitic egocentricity would not allow them to take a limo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital

Tim,

I agree about Paulson and have researched and worked in a place that revealed much about what really happened. I can't say much more than that--only to add that the mainstream media distorts the facts in order to create civil unrest. It's what allows them to continually get away with so much. I worked with a former Wall Street employee and we remain very good friends. We met yesterday while commuting to work and agreed that it does not matter who is president because the three entities will always remain in power--Wall Street/Banking/Military Occupation. He use to tease me about Ted K. and Barney F., with news clippings from the WSJ and I was forever the union brat giving it back about Bush/Cheney who he agreed were the evil duo, Cheney being the worse of the two( my family were teamsters and owned local construction companies), I'm a die-hard democrat, raised as a conservative-dem, which there is no place for now--it's either extreme right or left or so it is perceived if you vote the party. Anyway, he admitted that he voted for Obama first term and that surprised me. I would still rather have Obama in office because I believe Romney would hand us off to the guillotine before going to prayer service. His pal Cosmo-Brown voted to not extend our employment benefits until he had an angry mob at his statehouse office, then changed his mind. Was that in the Globe? NOT

Tim,
Agreed...these boards are laced with Republican Thermolite.

Does anybody know if Maura Ciardiello was running for Governor's Council today??

REAL NEWS....

http://www.democracynow.org/

Thank you to the many, many folks who helped us elect Elizabeth, Joe and re-elect Our President .......YES,YES, YES !!!!!!!!!!!

to quote an Illinois republican " it must be God will". let it be written, let it be done!!!!!

I just want to thank all the election site volunteers who gave of their time to uphold the democratic process. Also nice to see enthusiastic voter turnout.

This space got real quite suddenly!

Walter,

In the words of one great president--

"The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission". JFK

Yeah! WE WON!! OBAMA/CAPUANO/WARREN for MASSACHUSETTS! Wall Street/Predatory Lenders and Corrupt Banking BEWARE!

Yes, Mickey, the room got quiet....all the Republican groupies have gone to the same Aspen spa, on the taxpayers tab to heal their hopelessly bruised egos...at another $14k bar tab...wink/nod. Maybe Mitt can volunteer as Border Patrol in Arizona, but he'll have to give up his undocumented Mexican landscapers.

The people have spoken, stood in long lines for up to 10 hours, will combating voter suppression in Florida and Ohio, because their message has been heard! They are broke, tired, and fed up with the robberies of the working class by tyrants of the elite. This was our time to show that no corporation, private interests are TOO BIG TO FAIL, when it comes to the working class right to freedom!

To all who are celebrating our glorious victory and our renewed hope for a bright future for ourselves and future generations-- Enjoy and be happy! This was not an easy fight to win.

Very gracious concession speech by Scott Brown. Hope he runs for Governor next year!

This is typical behavior among republican's-- they can't accept the fact that their candidate is UNQUALIFIED for the job and has LOST.

The same occurred when Jeff Perry, who lost to Bill Keating for the congressional seat, was supported and endorsed by Romney and Brown.

Even when facts were revealed about how Perry lied about his education in order to get jobs and his cover ups within the police department, when he protected subordinate cop, a well known child pedophile--who went to jail for molesting two teenage girls, even when all this was revealed to the public, his small town supporters still wanted him. That's when Perry decided it was time to find another job, but he moved around a lot and didn't hold down a permanent job. He owned a convenient store where locals claimed he hired the very same pedophile to run his store.

These are the people who are aligned with Romney and Brown. Do you want your district represented by politicians who would support a member of their party even when they find out they are frauds who protect criminals?
The bigger picture is this --JOBS for family members, JOBS for friends, even when they are not remotely qualified. Now they will have to tell their pals, sorry, you will have to look elsewhere.

Say what you will, fact remains--Brown IS OUT.

Everything I have posted, I took from news articles. His former opponents will tell you what it was like dealing with Brown and his campaign. Just ask them.

278 comments later people still realized that you can't TALK someone out of their political party choices. Are you guys seriously still arguing about this? You all sound like dummies at this point.

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Citizen -
Would say some of the people who voted yes on medical pot voted no for DWD, not all. I smoked my last joint in the army in 66, and currently am dealing with leukemia, and I voted yes on both pot and DWD. Having to deal with the real threat of death during the past year, my greatest fear is the pain of dying, and also fear a morphine coma. Not saying I would use DWD, but might like it as an option. What surprised me was there were a fair number of TV ads against the article, and nothing for it.

As far as Brown, I don't remember hearing anything about him being a womanizer and that thought never crossed my mind. There was a strong push to connect him with the Republican party, fairly done as he is a Republican. Moderate, yes. I believe we need more moderates in the congress however the Tea Party and far right part of the Republican party have purged them from congress, as the Democrat party has purged moderates from their reps in congress. Brown just ran in the wrong state at the wrong time with his party running the wrong candidate.

Perhaps being optimistic about Senator Elect Warren, I truly hope and expect she will compromise next year. I also believe the direction of the Congress next year will be set during the lame duck session and how Congress reacts to the problems we now have.

Thanks Citizen- and God Bless the Marines. And that's coming from a Army vet. I am so proud of the youth of the Arm Services makes my heart burst.

As you can gather, thought Independent I tend to vote the liberal ticket. Some of my good friends are die hard conservative Republicans, Obama haters, however when we get down to the real problems of the country, we come to common understanding and solutions through compromise. What really ticks us off is that we can do it, yet those reps in the House and Senate can't do it. You are in the Marines, I am a Army Vet, and we both fought for our country. Sometimes the common good for the USA is greater than individual positions, and the key word is compromise. Like it or not, we have our US congress for the next two years. I strongly believe it is now our responsibility to let them know our positions, and the need to work together. If enough of us do it, perhaps Washington will listen.

In closing, I believe we could have a good conversation and depart friends even though our positions will be different. We would have a better understanding of the other's position. Thanks for kind words.

OllieD

Heard this joke during the election season. I think it came from Alec Baldwin's twitter page. You know your party is in trouble when you hear the following conversation between two guys: A) Hey the rape guy lost. B) Which one?

Too Bad Somerville Girl did not run for Congress in the Sixth district as an Independent ?

I hate to say this Richard Tiesei but had a woman republican/independent candidate with the same energy, passion and relentlessness as Elizabeth Warren ran for Congress in the sixth district, Republican or not she would have prevailed over Congressman Tierney !

It's no longer as simple as voting the person, not the party or the sex. In Massachusetts when they say it's not about the sex, it's about the sex, when they say they vote the person, not the party, they vote the party. When they say they "want" balanced and fair government. They want a true two party system, they are pragmatic and want everyone to get along in congress, they don't. Truth is American culture unlike that in France, thrives of divisiveness and polarization.
Until divorce court is quiet, Fox and MSNBC get along, we will have culture wars which can only get worse, not better.
While at the Gym and listening to women discuss politics as I did my Dad years ago
at the local coffee shop. Why am I not surprised to see women get into physical malays over the process and candidates. "Very entertaining"

M C Stringfellow,

I was raised a conservative democrat. If there was one decent, moderate Republican running, I may have switch to vote as an independent--but that is less likely to happen ever again. As a conservative democrat--we were taught to believe in social programs for the poor, disabled and elderly. Fiscally, we understood the importance of minimal spending--that everyone should work hard to be able to keep what they earned. That was the 60's and 70's, when I watched people in my family work as teamsters, construction owners, laborers, custodians and secretaries. They didn't earn much, but their homes could be bought with cash because they were still affordable and when they were ready to retire, their pensions were guaranteed--not ripped off by a bunch of thugs on Wall Street who also stole homes in our new modern day America. The other issue which people seem to forget is the rich once took their earnings and invested in American jobs--that is no more. You have people like Romney and his investors at Bain to thank for that. Matt Taibbi of the Rolling Stone wrote about people who lost their jobs and pensions after Mitt was done cashing out their companies, only to let them turn to dust. But, hey, he made billions for his buddies, so who cares about a few thousand workers who will never be able to provide for their families and enjoy retirement, right? It's the corporate model of the American Capitalist Dream--" I take everything you have because I can".

Diana,

You are right! As a single woman, I could never vote for a Republican like Romney, Perry or Brown. They are out of touch with modern day society and also run a campaign with is non-inclusive of diversity. Do they use the internet to reach out to voters? Or will they forever be stuck in the Ozzie & Harriet and Reagan era? The main problem with Republicans is they are unwilling to bridge the gap between what was then and what is now.

Many women across our country have been thrown into the workforce, either by choice or by necessity. Dual income households became a reality for thousands of growing families and has created a shift in the way we manage our daily lives.

If men are unwilling to work with women on these issues, they have only themselves to blame if things don't work out--whether in politics or the home.

I work full-time, own my own house and have raised two children while caring for an elderly mother and going to school. I achieve more after the divorce.

When politicians learn to accept that women are equals in the work place and at home, only then will things change. As long as the Republicans continue to try to keep us barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, things will remain as they are and the majority of independent, free spirited women will keep on fighting for their rights.

I couldn't have invented this one. This is Romney, the could-have-been-president, for you. I guess his staff must have been part of the 47%.

"From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself. Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked."

Classic.

They're all lucky they're not working in China now.

Kathryn,

"I don't believe there is a war on women, and believe it or not, not every woman in this country is for abortion on demand up and until the ninth month of pregnancy".

Interesting, might you or anyone you know encountered the following:

Rape
Incest
Abuse
Unemployment
Sexual Harrassment
Wrongful Termination
Missed opportunity of advancement/pay increase due to discrimination of salary (men vs.women)
Homelessness
Single parenting
Comfortable lifestyle
Formal education paid for by parents
Wealthy husband
Never lived outside of Stepford

If men were able to conceive a child, they would keep a steady supply of the morning-after-pill in their glove compartment, desk drawer, luggage, wallet and gym bag.

Would you also be a fan of .... a Republican from Indiana?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57538757/richard-mourdock-even-pregnancy-from-rape-something-god-intended/

There is no war on women. The dems stir that up to trick you ladies and get your votes.

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As it pertains to the election--the comment by Mourdock, was out of line. Politicians use this topic because they know it will garnish votes, for no other purpose. It would be very different if they had to deal with it on a personal level involving a family member.

I was simply making a point with my list, Kathryn. Your comments came across as a bit callous and I would have understood where you were coming from if you added that information to your previous argument. I do not believe in abortion either, but when I took a job in healthcare, years ago, I worked in a surgical unit within administration. When you see 13 year olds coming in for these procedures, it makes you think about these choices. The chief surgeon I worked for explained when I asked, "I took an oath to care for all issues pertaining to the healthcare of women".

It's an issue I don't believe belongs in politics. It should be left up to the medical field only. Educate teenagers in schools, so they will avoid life altering decisions and help them understand the importance of contraception used responsibly, also in avoiding diseases.

Bush eliminated jobs, ENRON donors, Greenspan, the housing bubble, 5% fixed rates, for the beautiful people, Adj.rates for everyone else. benefactors who made bets against bad mortgages. Masters of Business, Mitt Romney and Bain, Wall Street, Hedgefunds, Bernie Madoff, lack of SEC oversight, whistleblowers forced into silence, wrongfully terminated while being ignored. Afghanistan war, Bin Laden and hired guns, Iraqi dictator all given a job, later eliminated. SEC investigations and 911. Outsourced jobs, undocumented workers--hire American lawyers for green cards, keep on milking that cow. Give us your money for our banks, but don't ask for anything else. You are not entitled to healthcare, workers comp or even salary if we don't feel like paying you that week, because you can't go to court and sue us! HAHAHA... Just keep working those jobs Americans don't want to do. Picking oranges for corps 10 hour days, 95 degrees in the shade is something to envy.

If you bothered to look at the facts and talk to people of all walks of life and not your FOX NEWS groupies, you just might learn something and open up your brains. Let some air in....have compassion for all humanity.

The Republicans lost for a very good reason. It's simple---they did a crappy job! The people have spoken and sent a message--WE ARE DONE WITH YOUR RIPPING US OFF and taking away programs which are vital to our survival. Money is not everything as they learn..."A fool and his money.."

Patch editors, it's time to shut to the comments section down on this article. The quality of conversation has really degenerated (not that it was high to begin with).

IRONY ALERT: the people who get upset about the use of the term "war on women" are the same intellectual cripples who actually believe there's a war on Christmas.

Use we should shut this topic down. Too much over n over again. Let's just all see what happends. In most cases the devil you know is better than the one you don't know.

Liberals have always been gullible and mathematically challenged.
When liberals figure out that the promises they are receiving from public employee unions and city and state Governments, are mathematically impossible to keep, their won't be enough tissues for all their tears.
Theres no money in the pension till. Even if there were, it would be worth a quarter of what it was before Bernanke and Obama decided to run the printing presses 24/7/365.

Baldwin didn't leave, so why should we.

Diana,

They will be crying until the next election. I agree with you on Libya, what perfect timing, just before the election. How soon they forget Bush reading, Dick and Jane, "Jump and Run", in the classroom while hundreds were throwing themselves from burning towers and burning in planes.

There are many powerful men who commit atrocities in their homes, then hire expensive lawyers, steal their kids away from good mothers. Go to a women's support group/ shelter. I do not discount there are plenty of decent fathers who have been jaded by trash, lessons learned.

Until you have lost your pensions, jobs, healthcare and are not paying for your adult child's college tuition because they can't find a job--please do not speak to me about who is to blame for this economy. It was on the Bush/Cheney clock as they were negotiating with the Saudi's, who were found to be the real terrorists driving the planes, not Iraqi's and their weapons of mass hysteria. 911 was on their watch and so were wars they created, deceived congress and public about. Bush cut jobs and then our economy turned into a big Wall Street scam.

Stop blaming the welfare mothers and illegals. Your Republicans want them because they are their scapegoat after we question their spending, ripping off trillions by taxpayers for their senseless wars of greed and military contracts for their friends. They have been occupying regions of the world for decades due to their valuable resources, for no other reason.

Diana,

The only people who wanted Romney and Brown, were people who fall under the following categories:

Bain Investors
Wall Street brood
The hopelessly uniformed who continue to be brainwashed by FOX NEWS.
Those who have paid off their single family homes, living in Stepford, pensions are intact, kids have families, jobs and homes because mom and dad still had a savings account and were able to make their down payment.

The healthcare plan is for life with full coverage and no deductibles

When I was laid off along with 20 millions others nationwide--my Cobra went up to $1200 a month for a single person. That is more than what some pay for their mortgage.

Until they get out from behind their white picket fence and comfortable lifestyle, they have no right to dictate what the rest of the people who continue to struggle in this economy are doing.

I see it everyday and I am blessed to have a job again, when many of my former co-workers still cannot find a job. It was the 40+ crowd that got wacked, but most of the 20 somethings are not doing the job they had in mind, because Wall Street is not hiring anymore. So these kids are forced to take jobs at CVS ( one nephew who received a partial scholarship at Bentley in finance) nice huh? You pay all that money for a great education, only to be forced into take a job at minimum wages. You have Wall Street's trillion dollar global screw up for that!

Why should I have to pay for your misfortune? I pay almost 50% of my income in taxes. Why should I have to pay for you?

It is interesting that in a state that prides itself on diversity and protecting minority rights and even the right of people who are not entitled to them (illegaals), the democrats would rather elect a crook and a fraud rather than have Republicans have one representative in congress.

President Obama lost the white vote, and it was a rout: he lost by 19 percent. The last candidate to lose by that much was Michael Dukakis. He lost among white men, of course, but he also lost among white women. He lost among single white women, which had never happened for a Democratic candidate. President Obama won the vote of African-Americans, Latinos, and Asian-Americans -- the three largest non-white voting groups. He won the election because the turnout models that Democrats had hoped for regarding these non-white voting groups came into fruition. Had the turnout models been similar to 2004, 2010, or even 2000, Obama would have lost by 2 to 4 percent, but we still would have been just as divided. President Obama won, but we are more divided than ever. Bill Bishop, in his book "The Big Sort: Why the Clustering of Like-Minded America is Tearing Us Apart" writes about how Americans move to live among like-minded neighbors, and this phenomenon has been occurring in America since at least the 1970s. This behavior serves to heighten the divide, as fewer and fewer people even know people who vote for the other major political party. This segregation is not going to go away in 2014 or 2016, and both parties are safe enough in their bases to remain sufficiently partisan for years to come. The question is how do we get back to a consensus.

I actually enjoy taking care of all the indigents - New slogan - "Lean forward more we are not done yet". its called safe sex

But the most distressing result of the election was Scott Brown's loss. He was one of the few moderates in an increasingly homogenized Republican Party, and he was replaced with a strident partisan who has almost no chance of working with leadership in the opposition party to get anything accomplished. Massachusetts had a chance to moderate politics at the national level, and we voted present instead. If we want to end the partisan gridlock, we are going to need red states to elect moderate Democrats and blue states to elect moderate Republicans. And we need a President who is willing to expend political capital to work the problem.

The vote against Scott Brown was a vote against the Republic party, not against the incumbent. He has suffered for the sins of the virulent strain in the Republic party that brought out candidates like Todd Akin and Mourdock.

Here is some unsolicited advice to the Republic party from a centrist Democrat who has at times considered crossing party lines and voting for yourside. If you want to win my vote:

-- Jettison your social agenda and firmly disconnect yourself from the southern Evangelical Christian right.
-- Stop referring to anybody who doesn't vote for you as a moocher.
-- Disavow Rush Limbaugh.
-- Start embracing science.

Its now 5 days after the election, my choices didn't win. No big deal now that I'm over the shock. I'm now completely satisfied with the results Not because of who won or lost, rather because after listening & watching these past 5 days I know that nothing will change. If I don't become satisfied with the choices people selected it may affect my daily life. I'm just going to grin and bear it, satisfied knowing that my govt will continue to screw me every way possible. The part that makes me comfortable with my decision is knowing that I will be joined by you, the other, middle class voter who is under the concept that those you voter for care about you. I wish those in power the best until the next election (wait, I don't have to do that. They'll see to it that they take care of themselves. If we starve, we'll at least know they'll prosper). Man, I am so content now that I've accepted reality.

Fiscal Conservative, I HEAR YA! And I agree with you TOTALLY....the govt. is trying to screw me every way possible! Here's some of the ways that it will/has screw(ed)me..

1. They're trying to make us wealthy americans pay 3 to 4% MORE in taxes, making it about 39% federally and that's just not right....I mean, sure under the Eisenhower administration, it was 90% but hey, we shouldn't really pay attention to history...it just gets in the way of our good sound bites online. (I assume you are the same as me, a millionaire, right?....well, I'm not exactly a millionare but I WISH to be and I think just like Joe the Plumber 4 years ago, Obama is infringing on my fantasizing of a future wealth). HMPH!

2. That pesky pulling out of Iraq really screwed me over as well as alot of other americans who rely on daily info and factoids on the tv and internet on that conflict...sort of like a way cool video game!
I addition, my govt. is trying to screw me soon by ending the war in Afganistan! The american government is trying to screw me out of that warm feeling that we are policing the world at the very piddley expense of our servicemen and women...once again, they are taking away my cool video game!!!

3. I hate it when they try to make healthcare affordable to EVERYONE when in reality going to the emergency room is a WAY better idea when you're sick or dying...I mean, preventative healthcare is really a bogus notion when all you need is some vitamin C and some Robitussin..MORE TUSSIN!!!

I really HATE it when the govt. trys to screw me...AUUUGHHHH....HULK SMASH!!!

You don't have to "wait untill the next election" for a change, the TAKERS out number the rest of us now & things will remain the same as they are now & in future elections, untill a full collapse of the economy & entitlement system. Sad situation, hope it doesn't happen, but the majority rules.

@Diana ~ Feel free to take your EBT card & get another tatoo, Galt.

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Going back to the comment about Bush not leaving the classroom on 9/11 because he didn't want to scare the children.. did it ever cross anyone's mind that we were under attack therefore the President would be a prime target? I would think he would get out as fast as possible to protect the children. I am sure the President's visit was well publicized.

Point two: Scott Brown ran the first time as a nice guy who would not vote narrowly along party lines. He also had an opponent that ran a terrible campaign. I cringed every time he tried to make a point by calling Elizabeth Warren "professor". Since when is it negative to have succeeded in your field?

Point three: Yes I believe some people take advantage of social programs. I used to work in a grocery store and it was sad when someone had to return items because they didn't have enough money left on the EBT at the end of the month. Also, there were many people,especially elderly, who were visibly embarassed to use the card because of the venom out there. I hope none of you find yourselfs in that situation.

The housing bubble was started by Alan Greenspan (Bush) & Wall Street thuggery. They rigged the system to fail so the banks could profit, through foreclosures they sold back to the very same banks, not first home buyers as promised. They left many distressed foreclosures in ruin which became a burden to cities & towns across the nation. Some in construction are to blame since they were able to flip homes, multiplying sales. What does that do to neighborhoods which were primarily owned by lower to middle class families? And when the housing tsunami finally came crashing down, they told our members of Congress--"You need US to fix this problem", that was over 5 years ago and they made it much worse. AIG was holding their congressional pensions for ransom. That's one way to secure those double digit million dollar contracts. What about the $400k taxpayer (TARP) BAILOUT they took to Aspen to spend on hookers, snow cones and bar tabs? Homeowners across the country never got their bailout, some have lost everything and it was not of their own doing because they rigged the system. Even Elliot S., of NY bought into Mad Madoff's schemes, as many others but you will never know who they are because they won't share their dirty laundry. I know some of the democrats have also been involved in the housing bubble, but the majority are friends of Romney and Brown.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-2012082

16T in debt, unfunded pension liability, bankrupt cities and towns and liberals think they can tax "the rich" and everything will be ok. Liberals are and continue to be mathematically illiterate.
But hey you keep believing the Ponzi scheme your union reps and politicians are selling you.
If you liberals are unable to grab the concepts of simple math you might want to start learning Chinese.

Patty,

You reminded me of what another poster wrote a few hours ago about those on welfare--

Has anyone run statistics on how many new welfare recipients there are from the time people began losing their jobs? I will bet the reason is they are on public assistance is because they have to. If you lost your job and have small children to feed, what other choice is there? Call Mitt and ask him if they can be adopted by christian families of the Mormon Church? One former member told her story to Vanity Fair in this issue, read it for yourself: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/02/mitt-romney-201202

So basically, Mitt does not believe that a single mother can raise her child/children successfully without a husband. Well, having raised my two children practically alone for a number of years, I am living proof, he is wrong. There are plenty of two parent families who raise children poorly, without discipline, without love, nurturing and guidance. Why is Mitt allowed to profess that a Mormon religion is best? That is wrong and I still think the MSPCA should sue him for the mistreatment of his dog, caged on the roof of his car while traveling on a highway and letting him defecate on the roof. This guy is missing a few screws. And why did it take him four hours to concede? Did they have to supply him with more crying towels before he pull it together?

Here's your solution, pick a state from the list and pack up the chevy:

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/11/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-2494002.html

I can't believe people are still butting heads about the election. Enough already.

Patty - Point 4 - Obama watched 4 americans die in Libya...

We all watched that, Indiana. Open your mind, such as it is.

And how many people did the Republicans see to their deaths in Iraq? Not only Americans--let's just talk human beings.

And how much money did the former Vice President (never a more accurate appellation) make off of that? And Karl Rove--how much did he make off of the Republicans in this last debacle? Take stock--it's time for us all to take stock.

yes David...what is your point...Obama lied - what is your take? I would have paved the middle east - save Israel - after 9/11

My point is that you have no idea that Obama lied--only your PRE-judgement. You WANT him to have lied, therefore, he must have lied. Keep talking, and eventually you can convince yourself that he wasn't re-elected.
And by the way, your other comments are also insensitive and offensive. Mind you, I do not wish indigence upon you. I wish justice upon you. Sound it out.

Instead of being glued to your chairs in front of FOX news, try an alternate media outlet and learn some perspective:

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/12/us_ambassador_to_libya_killed_as

Some of my family members served in military and within government agencies. The facts are that people who sign up to go abroad to these dangerous places, whether they are ambassadors, contractors, soldiers or journalists-- are taking high risks and it's their choice! It is a terrible tragedy like 911 and hundreds of other terrorist attacks on thousands of innocent people who have died.

But fact remains--our government gets involved in foreign wars which do not concern us. We had former presidents who were not in favor of these interventions. Are you aware that Kaddafi was a paid by the U.S. for consulting fees, just years prior to his being condemned as an evil demon? Same happened with Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden, friends today, enemies tomorrow. Whenever it's convenient for this government and their financial relationships within the Middle Eastern countries to benefit, everything is grand. When things turn sour, then all hell breaks loose-and WE PAY. We should not be in the business of taking sides with countries who are at war. The moment we went down that slippery slope, it was the turning point of our country's reputation, economic surplus and quality of life for millions of Americans. You have the military corporations, banking and Wall Street to blame for all of it.

David you have no proof that Obama did not lie.. - so why are you right and I am wrong?? trust me I wish Hillary was our chief not Barry...yes there is proof...off and it will be out this week. Why do you people cover for this guy? it is sickening

and BTW David I wish the same upon you. yeah I am a bad person for following the rules and doing the right thing...you people are ruining this country - HAVE FUN - OVER AND OUT...fo

Seriously, which Republican is worthy of the presidency? I'd say NONE thus far. Maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board and find yourself a moderate who can talk to the people as though they understand the issues.

With the likes of Sarah Palin and Rick Perry, it's really pathetic.
Where is your moral compass on these two former candidates?
One who sounds like she never got passed the 6th grade and the other is so corrupt, I don't know where to begin.

Do you believe this?

"In February 2007, Perry issued an executive order mandating that Texas girls receive the HPV vaccine, which protects against some strains of the human papilloma virus, a contributing factor to some forms of cervical cancer. Following the move, news outlets reported various apparent financial connections between Perry and the vaccine's manufacturer, Merck. Merck's political action committee has contributed $28,500 since 2001 to Perry's campaigns. The order was criticized by some parents and social conservatives, and a lawsuit was filed later that month. In May 2007, the Texas Legislature passed a bill undoing the order; Perry did not veto the bill, saying the veto would have been overruled, but blamed lawmakers who supported the bill for the deaths of future cancer victims. (wiki)

If this idiot even bothered to ask the medical profession a few simple questions about this disease, he would realize it is contracted by MALES.

The Tea Party? You can't be serious.

SVillegirl,are you like 12 years old? because when i read your comments i am whisked back to junior high and the gum chewing girl next to me in science class who can't understand why the pretty girl gets to date johnny. For the record, Rick Perry is a moron we all agree on that one,but Sarah Palin should be a role model for all young American girls. She is Smart,Successful,a good mother,a good daughter,responsible,a hard worker,ethical. What else do you want? Compare Hillary to that.

Sean Ward - you have made the most sense ever on this thread - THANK YOU

Sean,

Democrats believe in peaceful negotiations, not war on other countries while killing innocent men, women and children. What accomplishments did we achieve with Vietnam? How many U.S. soldiers were sacrificed?

This is why we needed a strong UN, to keep countries from waging wars against one another. Collectively, we could force peace, divided we cannot.

My parents both suffered from Nazi occupation in Italy, as did other countries, we know the horrors they endured and lived to tell the stories and be emotionally crippled the rest of their lives due to years of famine, separation of family members who were forced to work, while women hid in basements.

Wars never achieve anything worthy, but only continue to erode foreign relations. After 911, it has all changed. We can't go back, but hope that somehow these problems which have festered will cease so peace can be restored.

The war in Iraq was our greatest mistake and started the spiral decline of this country. We have no business occupying this part of the world because it's only for their resources and no other reason. I wish people could understand that their greatest weapon is to create civil unrest and they have only succeeded in doing just that--turning people against one another because it helps them to continue the path of further destruction. If people learned to banned together, maybe we as a united force, could change things, but as long as we remain selfish and divided, we cannot succeed.

J Mac - you make perfect sense - kudos

J Mac,

You sound like an over 60, white male who believes Sarah Palin is your dream girl. Please stop! Her own constituency has told countless stories to the press about how heartless she is to the working class of her district. Why hasn't anyone bothered to prep her before she interviews on national TV?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYQdFZz3lUc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVK0qXVJKmM&feature=related

"Who said that, I want to know who that person is...." Maybe she wanted their job on a silver platter as the state cop who was married to her sister.

It's a good thing she's got great legs, don't think she would have got as far without them. That must have been Henry Kissinger's lucky day.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=465

Are you real? FDR wanted in WW11 and found the backdoor. LBJ did not run for a second term because he could not handle his rep being tarnished. It was the Dems who controlled Congress from 1956 thru 1996. It was Nixon (not my favorite president) who finally signed the peace with HO CHI MIN and brought our boys home. Jimmy Carter couldn't find his way out of a paper bag with both ends open. That's why Iran would not negotiate with him. Reagan did and brought the Hostages home. You need to read history AND, your lucky to be here. If we had not been in WWII, your parents may not have made it. Glad they did, others were not so lucky. One more thing, I assume you mean World Peace. World Peace is a dream, it will never happen as long as man walks this earth. There is always some one, some where who wants to be the big cheese and rule. You will always have unemployment, and there will always be a poor segment of the population. These two we can control by keeping them as low as possible. As for the UN. big joke. Maybe when it was first organized , but, Why don't they stop SYRIA, oh yes, its a civil war spilling over into Turkey Jordan, Israel and any other country that happens to be in missile range. Forget that they are killing their own countrymen. Utopia exists in books not in reality.

OUR BOYS...David - man you really are a barry disciple

Are they "your" boys, Indiana? I'd like to hear from them, before they commit to such as you.

Here's the link to an interesting story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958414/posts

Any man or women that serves the military is "our boys and girls"...will never question that...sounds like you would rather "comrade"

I thought you were "over and out", Indiana. Another false Republican promise? What did you mean by "fo"? Are you really as shabby as that??? Are your low standards to be forced on the rest of us? The troops may not back you up, here...

No just on you david...the troops would not want to fight for you...i can guarantee that

"You shut up!"

"No, you shut up!"

"No, YOU shut up, stupid!"

"NO YOU SHUT UP STUPIDHEAD"

M C Stringfellow,

LBJ, the grassy knoll. He and all the generals and benefactors wanted to continue the war. When JFK was assassinated, he was done.

Reagan was one of the worst presidents--Ollie North and Iran-Contra Affair just to name one. The outbreak of the AIDS epidemic began during his presidency and he did nothing, hated the gays and the story of Carter and hostages --I got a different take on how that all went down. Yes, Carter was no match for the presidency because he was too decent and honest a man. Our so called history books do not tell us the real truths. Maybe a "brief" would tell you more, but don't ever count on that happening. We are still waiting to hear about the untold stories of the men who went into the buildings of 911 and saw more than what was stated. Hundreds of died of asbestos poisoning without health insurance to cover their injuries sustained while on duty. Too many questions, unanswered, to feel confident in this country. Their agenda has now shifted abroad to $greener$ pastures, leaving us to fend for ourselves. They'll be lucky to survive on foreign territory since our kind is no longer welcomed in other lands. If you travel to other regions, you understand their is a sense of awareness to what has happened here and people do not admire this land as they once did. I would wager they prefer Obama over Romney who has been an unknown. Unlike Palin, I've had a passport since I was 7 and traveled to Europe, still.

David i gave up on truth logic and everything 4 years ago when we elected the fraud

The U.S. had knowledge of the camps implemented by Hitler. There were plenty opportunities to take him out. Do you have any idea why they did not act when millions were dieing? Try to find the answers in your history books, you won't. Bush's grandfather was supplying the German's with arms. Hitler feared the Jews would soon take over due to their increased wealth. I got that from dad's history books, who was able to flee in time before the Nazi's would force him to fight or be put in a camp. He managed to save enough to send funds abroad so his family in N. Italy would not starve.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

Sexist and Racist? I am making an uneducated guess...and I'm assuming I was right, by your reaction...sexist, possibly. Racist? How is that possible when I am white?

You really should get a grip. If there are any sexist, racist posters on this forum, you only have to look at the people you tried to elect.

The story on the link I posted on prescott bush seems to be history repeating itself.

I do believe in war when it is to save innocent people from true terrorism. In my honest opinion, with all the various reporting I have researched about the event of 911, I conclude it was another matter of vested interest gone bad, nothing more than nations in business deals that went terribly wrong. Building 7 was never explained, but housed a great deal of important material which had been planned to be used to prosecute individuals responsible at a planned trial. People will believe what they want based on their own life experiences, nothing can change that.

Yes, I remain a person who believes in peace among nations. I've learned that the people of nations are not responsible for what their governments do. Unfortunately, it is the very same people who are then punished and made to pay for the sins of their leaders who make poor choices.

I've heard enough around the dinner table over the years to understand how things were back then and are today. When your family consists of people who tell stories of their military careers and experiences during the wars, you get to understand a lot more than the average person. I suppose that is why we have the saying...."ignorance is bliss"....

To Steve Crane:
You listed a number of Republicans who you consider worthy of the presidency. I would add Jon Huntsman to that list, as I believe he is really underrated, and, though he is a conservative, he has more moderate and pragmatic political views, has an excellent background in foreign policy, trade and business, and did a pretty good job as a two-term governor of Utah. If the GOP had nominated him as the presidential candidate this time around, he would have had a pretty solid shot at landing the presidency, but we would never know that. There is talk that Obama is considering him for Secretary of State, to succeed Hillary Clinton.

I voted for Huntsman in the primaries, although I don't think that he has the charisma to light a fire. It's still too early, and a lot can happen between now and 2016, but there's also Paul Ryan, Sean Duffy, Kristi Noem, Nikki Haley, Adam Kinzinger, and even Scott Brown -- probably the best field of GOP candidates since 1980. And the Democrats are going to have a talented field with stars like Warren, Booker, and Hillary Clinton. It should make for a very exciting election.

Dan and Ron, I totally agree. For the republicans I also think of Jeb and George P. Bush (wouldn't that be interesting?). And for the Democrats, I would love to see Tammy Duckworth, Jim Webb, and Joe Manchin. I hope all of the candidates throw their hat in. 2016 could be an exciting primary season. I would love to see Christie and Condi debate. It would be awesome.

Dan and Ron, I totally agree. For the republicans I also think of Jeb and George P. Bush (wouldn't that be interesting?). And for the Democrats, I would love to see Tammy Duckworth, Jim Webb, and Joe Manchin. I hope all of the candidates throw their hat in. 2016 could be an exciting primary season. I would love to see Christie and Condi debate. It would be awesome.

Simple solution weather you be a Republican or Democrat and its what your Grandfathers would have told you in the 40's and 50's "BUY AMERICAN" do without. Live below your means pay off your credit and pay cash for all "AMERICAN ITEMS ONLY" This will surpress the imports and the Government will have to set up new bussiness here in OUR Country. High taxes on all Imports no Taxes on American Made. No matter who is president it wont matter. WE THE PEOPLE WILL BE IN CONTROL not big bussiness. No Taxes on the MoM and PoP stores so they can compete with the big box stores. The Ol timers knew how to do it with now computers or PHD's. Common sence. ""BUY AMERICAN"

@Indiana, Your right, he is a fraud, but the gullible, illegals & people deceiving the various entitlement systems voted him in (it's in their self-interest). Looks like nothing can be done about it either as they're the majority now! R.I.P. U.S.A.

Steven,

I will provide my arguments for the would-be candidates you have a strong desire to see run in 2016. Right off the top, I can say Rice is out. She's got way too much baggage from Bush/Cheney years. About Bush, some think he wasn't that bad, just was surrounded by people who were poor advisors. Cheney, however, one of my (Independent)Republican/Libertarian friends say he is one of the most evil walking the earth. That's not coming from any of the dem's who I know, this is a Wall Street retiree who I once worked aside. A good family man who left that position to care for his dying mother. All his wisdom and perspective of both parties, including events which led us to where we stand today, I have taken as gospel. I would ask, "How are things looking now", his answer was, "It's only going to get worse". This was in 2006. We still debate, but he admits the wealthy elite have not been giving back as they had in the past and should, to give our economy the boost it needs so people can get back to work and pay taxes. Their promises of "We will create jobs, if you don't make us pay taxes", was a BIG LIE. They are leaving the U.S. and moving to other continents because they have all the cash they need. How does that make you feel? Not all warm and fuzzy, I'm sure.

Many of us who were laid off were forced to use savings and retirement funds which are penalized.

Chris Christie
Condoleezza Rice
Gary Johnson (although now a Libertarian)
Marco Rubio
Artur Davis

Swearing is not permitted folks, c'mon, you should know this by now.

David Mokal--

I've tried to rent "A Ship to Nowhere", but don't think it's in circulation. Not PC enough, I suppose. It's important to me to find out more details of what really happened before and during that war because it shaped my parents in ways I cannot explain. The area in which they were raised, I have since visited 4 times, twice in two years. A beautiful country which neighboring countries had tried to conquer--Spain, France, Austria and Germany. Due to the richness of the land and proximity for shipping. I understand why the people who live there are so protective of their homeland. They are also experiencing many issues now with unemployment and other fiscal woes. But people in higher elevations, away from the cities are still managing because they were able to save and live off their land. Their underground passages in the mountains saved thousands. That's were dad's family lives, they are more intact than mom's who were poor and dealt with Nazi occupation in the lower farmlands and horrors which ruined the family. We here in America are lucky to not have ever experienced occupation by countries that wage war and commit unspeakable acts. But it also makes us blind to their murderous rampage and immense suffering.

David,

I was referencing Northern Italy, btw. In response to your "BUY AMERICAN"--I agree. But it's hard to live without credit cards because you are limited (car rentals?). Until you experience your own modern day depression, you won't understand the implications of what the crooked banking has done to millions who are now forced to rely on it.

It's easy for those not struggling, to preach to those who continue to live on a sharply reduced income when none of our bills have declined--mortgage payment, home/car insurance, utilities, food. My car is 12 yrs old. I pray it passes inspection every year. They force the American consumer to buy products because they make it impossible to live anywhere else. I've visited rural NH and Maine--sure, maybe things are cheaper, but there are NO JOBS and you must rely on your own vehicle to get around. It may be aesthetically appealing, but try to live there in January with 15 foot snow drifts. Breaking out the snow shoes will get you as far as the hen house.

This is why we see a sudden surge to the metro of Boston, because people are selling their homes in suburbia. They want convenience and to pay less in gas prices, etc.

I've cut way back and use public transportation so I can save on the maintenance of my 12 year old Volvo, which by the way, is the best car I've driven. I've had Ford, Chevy, GMC--gas hogs, bad tranny's, don't last, why our American car industry hit the skids. People won't pay for crap.

Christie--HELL NO. You won't need me to explain. There is enough here to show parallels to Brown's "I only vote for the other side when it helps my image and doesn't have a snowballs chance". Romney--"I'm always right and you are never going to beat me", attitude and other questionable links via Wall Street, Jack Welch..aka "chainsaw", are you kidding?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Christie

NEXT...

Now, Gary Johnson I like, he's smart-- but I hate to break the news to you guys. Your bible beating, Neo-Con's won't let him get past go. He's holding the Republican's accountable as well? Ha! That's an uphill battle for sure....""During his tenure, he vetoed more bills than the other 49 governors combined—750 in total, one third of which had been introduced by Republican legislators...He credits his heavy veto pen for eliminating New Mexico's budget deficit and cutting the growth rate of New Mexico's government in half....Johnson has "said his numerous vetoes, only two of which were overridden, stemmed from his philosophy of looking at all things for their cost–benefit ratio and his axe fell on Republicans as well as Democrats".

I don't wish to make a concrete decision on whether he would make an ideal candidate for the next president, but after reading his stellar career as Governor of New Mexico, I'd have to admit he appears to be a man of the people, one who plays fair. Unfortunately, those who you have favored and have been running for president/vice president are not this brand of politician. Not enough people even know what a Libertarian stands for and they are use to what we currently have to pick from in two parties. Maybe in four years people will be willing for a change from either of the parties. There will have to be a great deal of cleaning house until then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson

Are there 2 parties in Mass.?,...how can that be?, Warren and a Kennedy say I want the job and it's theirs - presto! Why even have an election in Mass.?
Thank the Goddess I can smoke weed and have an abortion because November 6th,...I was raped!

Not sure about Rubio, he's in junior league and there's not much on him about his career successes. Although, it would appear he worked hard to get where he is today and that is a good quality for a politician to have if he's going to be working for a broad constituency. As far as the Ivory Tower candidates are concerned--if they spent a great deal of time volunteering in distressed regions of our country and world, then it may constitute a person of good character. If one cannot gain perspective of how other people live, they cannot be good politicians--plain and simple. I prefer a politician who is willing to stand alone and not be aligned too tightly with people in their own party. Johnson appears to be that type of politician.
Rubio has ties to Cheney and Romney so I would have to remain on the fence here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rubio

Lastly, on Davis--I don't see as a strong candidate and I don't believe in his foreign politics.

If given a choice from the list you provided, I would have to choose Johnson, above the rest.

I am aligned with his philosophies of the Middle East and favor protecting Iran.
We should never allow one country to rule over others. It does not matter which it is--or influence with money because it changes the relationship when people then feel obligated. It is something I really having difficulty in accepting. All people should be protected, not just the most wealthy, most educated or those who have most suffered. Everyone should be treated equal. It's the only way to ensure peace.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent". Thomas Jefferson

Oh, John. Don't be so dramatic. Have a fresh crying towel. It will be alright.

My pal, the retired Wall Street exec has been debate these issues with me for the past six years when we met. He still holds on to the concept that is does not matter which party wins--they are all in the same briar patch with the fox and rabbits.

There was no choice for me in this election. I am a single woman trying to repair 10 years of financial ruin due to a "preventative" mass layoff (x 20 million nationwide),. I know Wall Street is to blame for most of it and until our representatives put these bums in jail, I will not rest. Those of us who continue to struggle to make ends meet--want real change in DC, in banking and in the federal reserve, who btw sat back and did nothing while fiscal bombs went off globally due to all their backroom thuggery and schemes. Triple "A" rating in Norway, remember that debacle? Many should go to prison for that and are living the fat life somewhere in hiding. Bernie Madoff did not act alone.

A fireman from my town told me he lost over $200k on his pension. Those stories are upsetting to me. You won't see the FOX news cameraman showing up at his front door for an interview, though, will you?

No, they are too busy depicting all our fiscal woes on the illegals and welfare recipients. It's much bigger than that and you won't learn the truth because they gagged DC into silence with "You need us to fix the economy", BS.

How are they doing so far?