L’Italien Announces State Rep. Candidacy
The former state representative is seeking her former seat.
It's official. Former State Rep. Barbara L'Italien of Andover is running for state representative for the Essex 18th District.
L'Italien held that seat for eight years before being defeated by Rep. Jim Lyons in 2010.
“This is my home," she said in a statement announcing her candidacy. "I was born here, attended Merrimack College and am fortunate enough to have raised my four children here. I understand the local issues that people in this community care about—jobs, schools, and family."
After her 2010 defeat, L'Italien began working as State Treasurer Steve Grossman's director of government affairs, and she says her work in creating funding opertunities for local small businesses through the Small Business Banking Partnership helped to create jobs and shrink the ubnemployment rate in the state.
L'Italien also took swings at Rep. Lyons.
“For the past two years we’ve had nothing but a representative who is only interested in partisanship and pushing an extreme Tea Party agenda,” said L’Italien. “He has no credibility, no authority, and has delivered no results. My neighbors in this district deserve better than what they have today.”
L'Italien is running on bipartisanship and effective government, which she says sets her apart from Lyons.
“If we want results, then we need to roll up our sleeves and work together,” said L’Italien, who worked closely with both Democrats and Republicans as a State Representative," she said. “We don’t need a loudmouth – we need a strong and reasoned voice that gets results. As a state representative I built a reputation as someone who worked with both political parties to get things done – and I delivered.”
L’Italien cited maintaining North Andover’s local aid, pushing Verizon to remove telephone poles from around the North Andover Common, and fighting for improvements to route 93 to benefit Tewksbury as examples of her effectiveness in getting things done.
“These projects and policies are not ideological battles," she said. "These are things that are important to our residents and communities. How are we supposed to get anything done with Jim Lyons refusing to work with individuals just because of their party?”
L’Italien lives on Harper Circle in Andover with her husband of 26 years, Kevin Hall. They have four children: Rudy, 22; Allie, 20; Sam, 18; and Andrew, 14. L’Italien’s mother Claire also lives with the family.
salemst
8:14 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Barbara L’Italien was the Chief Architect of the Alcohol and Meals Tax increase who, in June 2009, without a full House vote in Recessionary economic times, slipped it into the budget through secretive/private Conference Committee meetings she chaired as Vice Ways and Means Committee Chairman. She also voted for the Sales Tax increase.
She never acknowledged her role in the tax increases and when asked during the 2010 campaign three times about this tax increasing 2009 legislation in regional/local newspapers she was quoted at that time she now favored, opposed, and was undecided about supporting them in successive answers.
As an Andover resident if people in North Andover prefer a tax raising, big spending liberal Democrat eroding disposable family income while harming local businesses encouraging consumers flock to New Hampshire for purchases avoiding taxes, then you should vote for Barbara L'Italien.
Beginning June 5, 2009
* There were several closed to the public Conference Committee meetings chaired by L’Italien who was Vice Chair of Ways and Means Committee
* On a majority vote sent a signed Jacket allowing the Alcohol and Meals Tax be included in the June 19th 2009 final budget signed by Deval Patrick, House Bill 4129 Roll Call 09-155 without a full House vote on the Alcohol and Meals Taxes.
* L’Italien voted "Yes" on the budget which included the taxes roughly 2 weeks later
Bill Kelly
5:27 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Barbara L’Italien was not the chief architect of the Alcohol and Meals Tax increase. The alcohol tax was initiated by the Senate not the House of which she was a member. The conference committee between House and Senate negotiates a final budget acceptable to both bodies prior to sending to the Governor for approval. I know Barbara did not like the alcohol tax but did not want to hold the entire budget process up delaying the vital delivery of vital local aid to cities and towns. That is called governing.
As for the meals tax, all L'Italien did was make it possible for communities to pass this alternative for generating revenue. Whether communities choose to institute such a tax is THEIR own option. There are certainly some communities that want that tax, and some that don't. Given that you are not a North Andover resident, you are perhaps unaware that we had two healthy debates on the issue last year. While I was against the tax (in fact, I campaigned against it, both times alongside one of L'Italien's former staffers!), the reason that it passed had nothing to do with L'Italien and everything to do with how North Andover's Town Meeting voted (and I don't recall L'Italien voting at that Town Meeting).
salemst
6:13 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Bill Kelly, we both understand that Barbara L'Italien as Vice Chair of Ways and Means heading the Conference Committee June 5, 2009 made her the Architect and most responsible for getting the Alcohol and Meals Tax increases into the budget.
You realize that conference was 2 Democrats and 1 GOP from the House and 2 Democrats and i GOP from the Senate--majority rule.
If Barbara L'Italien opposed those taxes a 3-3 tie vote would have killed them. In a brutal Recession, worst economy since the Depression, and people struggling to make ends meet Barbara L'Italien made that effort tougher and encouraged consumers to head for the New Hampshire border grealy harming local businesses.
One Liquor store owner told me his business was off 40% thanks to Barbara L'Italien's tax raising efforts.
I refuse to cavalierly dismiss her actions as saying "she didn't want to hold the budget up" when that clearly demonstrates her lack of character and leadership. She doesn't do the right thing for her constituents because she didn't want to "hold things up?"
Jim Lyons held up the entire budget till he got answers from the Patrick administration regarding government spending. That's a leader. That's standing up for what's right. That's standing up for his district.
The only thing Barbara L'Italien stands up for is raising taxes and spending money.
Bill Kelly
7:37 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
Mr. Josephson, I stand by my statement that she was not the architect of the alcohol tax. When you are in a position of leadership that means you have to work with people even when you disagree with some of their ideas. Barbara was personally against the alcohol tax and after it's passage in 2009 voted to repeal it. http://www.hgazette.com/local/x154639899/Question-1-would-end-sales-tax-on-alcohol/print
I know this is inside baseball, but when you are in a position to serve your communities you have to ask yourself how can I be most effective and get 95 % of what my constituents ask for and need.
salemst
9:05 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
Bill Kelly, you make Barbara "L'Italien look worse by your last post.
Barbara L'Italien was the architect for the Alcohol/Meals Tax being instituted.
As Vice Chair of Ways and Means heading the Conference Committee which in secret/private meetings slipped them into the budget without a full House vote don't insult us saying she "was working with people even if she didn't agree with all their ideas" as a 'business as usual' political approach. So L'Ittalien's a go along to get along politician, even when she disagrees with the legislation? That she facilitates the passage of onerous legislation she personally opposes cause she's just a good foot soldier doing her job carrying the water for others? Is that the kind of person we want representing us? "Well, she didn't support the bill she was responsible for passing that upsets and doesn't represent you or the precinct so you can feel good about the fact it's only about "good governance."
If Barbara L'Italien opposed these taxes as an individual with strong leadership and intestinal fortitude wouldn't she have fought against them as Jim Lyons would have, or if upset changed her political party affiliation away from Democrat?
You're making excuses for her. But what you're really saying is Barbara L'Italien has the nerve to stand up to her political opponents, but no backbone whatsoever to stand up to her party, on principle, as Jim Lyons obviously does.
You again make Barbara L'Italien look even worse
Cool Fusion
8:25 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
L'Italien primary campaign donors are Lawyers & Lobbyists to the tune of $18,120. Bribes or extortion is the question that the LWV's will never ask their pampered candidate.
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Bryan McGonigle2
8:38 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
She's running on bi-partisanship as a Democrat in a Democrat-controlled state house? By getting rid of all those partisan Republicans on Beacon Hill? Which Republican is she dying to start working with in a bi-partisan manner?
How does this make any sense?
Coolish Fusion
12:04 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
The issue of strong bipartisan working relationships is relevant. Mr Lyons stated in the 2010 LWV debate that he would not support any idea generated by a Democrat.
He has not voted for the budget for the last 2 years and has been so partisan as to render himself isolated from his own party as well. Voting against everything and being an obstructionist means that when something is needed at the local level he will not be successful in getting it.
Jamison Tomasek
11:12 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
This article is written with a strong bias. It has statements (without quotes) like: L'Italien is running on bipartisanship and effective government, which she says sets her apart from Lyons which is clearly lifted directly from her PR. As for what she has to say, I was at the hearing for the Lawrence loan guarantees in early 2010. Ms L'Italien was the Vice Chair of Ways & Means at the time, which was holding the hearing. She sat mute (unlike Chairman Charley Murphy, who took many witnesses over the coals) for virtually the entire hearing, and then subsequently voted against it. Where was her "strong and reasoned voice" then?
Representative Lyons represents a strong and principled opposition voice in a state then needs MORE partisanship. If the Democrats in this state were interested in bipartisanship they would subscribe to democratic ideals like debating legislation and a more transparent process. Instead it's all done in their caucus behind closed doors and rammed through in massive bills that don’t allow for amendments or debate. The average person (as well as the press) has no access to the information they need from all branches of our state government. Rep. Lyons fights for more open government, which is good for us all.
Jamison Tomasek
11:24 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Tea Party Agenda:
Less government spending, less government intrusion in people's lives, citizens controlling their own government, lower taxes so that people can spend their own money, patriotism, honoring veterans, living within our means, paying our bills, working rather than looking for handouts, being able to start businesses, not looking to the government to solve all our problems.
Hardly "extreme" and if you ask people in this district if they think there should be higher taxes and more government, I think Ms L’Italien will find that she is the one out of step.
Tommy Duggan
2:26 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Jamison, if on is a tax and spender who thinks our government money should go to people who do not pay into the system, steal identities, mooch off the hospital system, steal our government services and vote in our elections then to THEM the tea party agenda IS Radical and extreme. They just forget to put "in my anti american opinion" they are extreme
Bryan McGonigle
11:43 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Jamison, the article was not written with bias. Based on her comments, she is in fact running on those things. Whether it is legitimate that she is running on those things is up to the voters upon examining her record and her claims. I didn't say she was a beacon of bipartisanship, I said she was running on that.
Tommy Duggan
2:18 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Just my two cents, but why was was the truth not included in the next paragraph. If a ten time drunk driver told you in an interview that he had a clean driving record would you not inform your readers of that in the next paragraph? Babs is a very nice woman and she means well, I agree, but the deception in this story on her part is stunning. There is NOTHING bipartisan about Babs at ALL, and the readers deserve to know that.
Jamison Tomasek
4:27 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Brian- I get what these Patches are about and that you need to crank these things out. If you stepped away from this and read it I really appears that you just repurposed a press release from her campaign. I am weighing in to present a different perspective, which is what social media is all about. If I thought Rep Lyons was in trouble I would take this article apart point by point, but he beat her once and he will beat her again. After which she will return to Treasury, because that's how things work in this state.
Bryan McGonigle
4:56 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Jamison, I didn't just reprint a press release. The article is about her announcing her candidacy and shaping her campaign. Rather than include all of someone's comments in their statement, I summarized a lot of it -- making it clear that it was her speaking and not me -- and said she was running on a platform of bipartisanship and effective government and pointed out some examples she had given. Of course these articles are going to generate discussion, and that's great. But there was no bias in writing it.
Frank Puopolo
12:47 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Lyons should change his name to Wolf..all he has done since getting to the State House is howl at the moon.
Tommy Duggan
2:21 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
I guess you support spending millions if not BILLIONS on illegals with no documentation, you apparently support government agencies spending our money with no accountability. If not for Jim Lyons we wouldn't now how much our state government is wasting on illegals. I would say forcing the government to be transparent with the way they spend our money is a hell of a lot more than howling at the moon..... unless you SUPPORT illegals getting government services and hiding it from those of us paying the bill.... then I guess you have to attack him since you can't come right out and say that.
Bill Callahan
1:10 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
It is clear that Representative Lyons is only interested in grandstanding. His principled opposition is useless. Bipartisan legislators like Senator Bruce Tarr and Senator Bradley Jones worked with all parties to help pass a bill to rein in health care costs - to the tune of $150B - without compromising the quality of care. Representative Lyons voted no. Pretty much all Representative Lyons does is complain about illegal immigration. He doesn't show up at North Andover town meeting to hear from his constituencies.
We're not living in Atlas Shrugged. This is a state with one of the best qualities of living in the country and we need solutions-oriented people up on Beacon Hill solving real problems.
Jamison Tomasek, Representative Lyons, and Tedd Tripp are most helpful on the outside as critics. They have neither the intellect nor the inclination to help solve problems.
Coolish Fusion
2:28 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Better add Tommy "I-run-a-fair-and-balanced-gossip-rag" Duggan to your list non-problem solvers.
Tommy Duggan
2:34 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
I alwasy love it when ignorant people can't defend their stated positions so they have to resort to chidish name calling.
Hey "COOLISH" at least I am not a coward hiding behind a fake name. I put my name on what I write because I am not ashamed of myself or my positions. Too bad you can't say the same.
Peter
12:57 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
"Bipartisan legislators like Senator Bruce Tarr and Senator Bradley Jones worked with all parties to help pass a bill to rein in health care costs - to the tune of $150B - without compromising the quality of care." Please report to the Infirmary to get your meds checked.
There has been no healthcare savings in this state. If you are speaking of shifting costs form cities to unions that is just transferring the costs.
Where are the "savings"?
We had "Healthcare Reform" and the costs continue to rise. This is with the large infusion of Federal monies to prop up the system to sell it as a national template. The whole fiasco has been a failure.
Peter
1:05 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
and Barbara L'Italien attends every Town Meeting.?
salemst
2:03 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Mr Callahan can attempt to impeach Representative Lyons', Jamison Tomasek's and Tedd Tripp's intellect in his attempt to obfuscate the real issue.
Barbara L'Italien was the Architect instituting the Meals and Alcohol Tax, also separately voting for the Sales Tax increase, all in the peak of a brutal Recession and the worst economic times since the Great Depression in 2009 showing zero compassion for taxpayers struggling supporting their families. She slipped this into the budget insidiously through Conference Committee without a full House vote. There's no record of this meeting available--no notes.
Perhaps this is the way Barbara L'Italien uses "Bi-Partisanship" solving "real problems" as Mr Callahan and her campaign literature alludes to. There isn't anything that can't be accomplished in a closed meeting in a closed room with a simple majority required to get your way and your side has a 4-2 Conference Committee advantage back room politics style.
We're "not living in Atlas Shrugged." We're also not living in Socially Democratic Western Europe or the old Communist USSR, either.
Thomas
2:20 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Love the revisionist history, bill. The 5.1 B deficit in 2009 was due to world-wide recession. L'Italien voted for the state budget because it needs to be balanced and passed on time or state government shuts down and all services stop. Chief architect? The alcohol tax was added by senate to balance budget, and L'Italien supported its repeal in 2010. The meals tax is a local option for each community and was largely pushed by MA Municipal Assoc. Repeating your statements several times on a blog doesn’t make them true.
Tommy Duggan
2:31 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Lets be honest here, Babs has never met a tax she didn't like... unless it's to make illegals pay "their fair share" and then suddenly she is against it.
salemst
2:38 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Thomas stated "L'Italien supported alcohol tax repeal in 2010."
She did no such thing.
Here's the chronology after she Architected the instituting of the Alcohol Tax:
11/18/09 House Bill 4348 Roll Call 09-264
* Rep Jones offered an amendment to the fiscal stability bill to eliminate Sales Tax on Alcohol to provide a stimulus and save business.
* Democrats offered further amendment to study the proposal to preclude a vote in the original RLO amendment.
* L’Italien voted yes to send it to Study killing the GOP bill to eliminate the Alcohol Tax.
4/27/10 House Bill 4600 Roll Call 10-362
* An amendment was filed to eliminate the Alcohol Tax as it primarily impacts lower and middle class consumers.
* Rep Kaufman filed a further amendment to require a Study of the impacts of the Tax repeal, precluding action on the original amendment.
* L’Italien voted No (Does not support the “Study” but does not necessarily support the elimination of the Alcohol Sales Tax). Rejected the further amendment, allowing a vote on the underlying amendment to repeal Alcohol Sales Tax.
Yes 88 No 67
Bill Callahan
5:53 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Mr. Duggan - as you claim to be a journalist, why don't you afford the subject of the story the respect to which she is entitled. Her name is Barbara L'Italien and not using it is sexist and disrespectful. And I thought conservatives were neither.
Tommy Duggan
6:39 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hey Bill
I know you have a narrative that you have to stick to (those who disagree with you must be sexist, racist, some other "ist" that you define to suit your needs, but my lovingly calling her Babs has nothing to do with the demons you cojure up in your head. And for the record, I have never claimed to be a "journalist", if you are going to try the typical Democrat style of ad hominem attacks because you cannot defend your position, at least do your homework and know what you are talking about.
I have shown Babs quite a bit of respect, far more respect than she gives to her opponent. But I get it, Bill Callahan, you have a side to defend and you don't have anything other than insults so that's what you go with. You should apply for a cushy state job you would fit right in.
Tommy Duggan
6:51 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
I don't mind so much if someone is going to defend their party line to the end, right or wrong. It does not offend me at all that my friend Babs holds the exact opposite views on the function of government in a free society as myslef. She is fully entitled to believe illegals should vote. She is fully entitled to believe that the government should control every aspect of our lives. That is what a free society is all about.
It's when I see the dishonesty of calling herself bipartisan, and perpetuating to the public that she is "bipartisan" that offends me greatly.
I would be just as offended if Jim Lyons came out and said he was "bipartisan"... because he is NOT bipartisan either. They are polar opposites, and it's all a matter of priority. Jim Lyons defends the tax payer, Barbara defends the recipients of the spending of those tax dollars. I just want honesty among the candidates. You will never catch Jim Lyons pandering to the middle or misleading voters into thinking he is a moderate. I expect the same from Rep. L'Italian.
Bill Callahan
7:36 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Good morning Mr. Duggan. I was commenting on your use of a pet name for a female person in the public domain. That specific behavior I find be be sexist. But I'm certain that you are a perfectly non-biased person who just made a mistake. Hate the sin, love the sinner.
Tommy Duggan
7:39 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012
IN response to Bil's comment: "Bill Callahan
7:36 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Good morning Mr. Duggan. I was commenting on your use of a pet name for a female person in the public domain. That specific behavior I find be be sexist. But I'm certain that you are a perfectly non-biased person who just made a mistake. Hate the sin, love the sinner."
Bill: just so that I understand your position. If I have a "pet name" for a woman it is sexist? Yes? Ok. If that is correct, what about my pet names for Daid "Where-is-He" Torissi? Or Lenny "Dee Da Deee" Degnan? Or "Da Mayo" Willie Lantigua? Is that sexism against men? And if not, why not? Or are you saying there a differnet standard for dealing with women? and if there is... isn't that.. sexism?
just wondering
.... a lowely sinner.
Tommy Duggan
3:10 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Barbara may be a very nice woman outside the realm of politics but her record and her postiions are clear.
Fact: She supports illegal aliens staying in this country
Fact: she supports allowing them to vote in our elections
Fact: She is a tax and spender
Fact: she opposes secure communities
Fact: she denigrates those who disagree with her
Fact: her statement about being "bi-Partisan" is simply dishonest
Fact: She is hostile to business
Fact: she thinks it's the government's job to solve every hiccup that happens in society.
Now if you agree with all that, you shold vote for her.
Cool Fusion
4:02 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Mr. Duggan,
Barabra L'Italien special interests constituency should not be confused with being the same as being the resident citizens of the district that she represents. In truth, it's a tattoo of groups she panders to, including unions, the education/industry complex, government employees (SEIU), exploiters of the entitlement complex, loophole legislation for the connected with inside tracks, and those that benefit from illegal immigration. If one was to read her accomplishments, one would conclude that the taxpayers and private citizen advocation played no part to those ends. No Babs, you did not do all that by yourself.
Peter
1:32 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
p.s. This is NEWS? Wouldn't pulling papers, collecting signatures,having them certified, forming a committee and having fundraisers be a context clue to this "breaking news" story.
What next, a report on JFK being shot?.
Bryan McGonigle
9:23 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
Peter, I covered it when she collected signatures a couple months ago. Also, I didn't label this "Breaking News" or send out a bulletin with it. I was reporting the news of her official announcement. I have several posts up a day... most are not breaking news. In case you were wondering, "Turkeys at Sal's..." isn't breaking news either.
Jamison Tomasek
1:54 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
I think Tierney and L'Italien should campaign together.
salemst
11:25 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
For the record, I thought Bryan's piece on L'Italien was fair and objective reporting despite my opposition to her. Her running and her platform isn't up to Bryan to judge in an article, it's up to this discussion group to make known the pro and anti points which I believe we all have. For any North Andover resident or Patch reader reading Bryan's piece along with the comments have an extremely fair assessment of Barbara L'Italien, which they should be made aware of having an 8 year legislative record on Beacon Hill.
Also, Bill Callahan's attempt to place the focus on Tommy Duggan's often heard nickname of "Babs" as "sexist" is, IMO, quite weak. But if losing the argument trying to make someone else the focus is normal argument issue deflection strategy
Bryan McGonigle
11:45 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Thanks Bill! This was just an announcement of candidacy article. Further analysis of candidates will unfold in the coming months. As for bipartisanship, I guess the word is used so often that it means various things to people. It's a fascinating discussion though. Food for thought... I see it as maybe working across aisles and not so much to do with being a centrist. For example, look at Ted Kennedy. He was about as liberal as they get, by no means a centrist, yet he did work on a lot of big things with Republicans in the Senate and with Republican presidents. Ronald Reagan was by no means a centrist but he worked on things with Democrats. This usually involves compromise and finding common ground to build upon. A conservative Republican in the Massachusetts legislature, if he or she is ever going to get things accomplished, sort of has to work in a bipartisan way, despite ideology. The same can be said of a liberal Democrat in the NH legislature. And even with legislators in the majority parties, some bipartisanship is demanded since districts are made up of diverse politically-minded constituents.
salemst
5:13 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012
I agree, Bryan. Bi-partisanship means finding people across the aisle who agree with you in principle. Jim Lyons has done that in his time as rep. He fights constantly for more local aid money given back to the towns. He has Democrat bi-partisan support there, and on Massachusetts government spending on illegal immigrants.
It's not up to you, IMO, to make judgment or critical calls but to report the news and let the readers have at it in discussion, which you have. She's claiming a campaign geared towards bi-partisanship. In a one party rule state we'll see how effective that strategy is for her. With only 32 Republicans and 128 Democrats in the House I believe we need more Jim Lyons' fighting on principle than what Barbara L'Italien's offering based on her 8 year record and disdain for those in disagreement with her.
For a "bi-partisan" running candidate she certainly didn't build up a reservoir of good will in her district from 2003-2011 never, I believe, attaining 60% support regardless of strength of opposition.
But I applaud you, Bryan, for doing your job of letting us know Barbara L'Italien is back, her platform she's running on, and her personal "regard" for Jim Lyons. It's a community service.
Best Regards,
Bill